Comments on: Redrawing with the Pen Tool http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/ Guides and Tutorials for Cleaning Manga Sat, 04 Feb 2012 07:57:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: chiresakura http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-21649 chiresakura Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:31:10 +0000 http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/#comment-21649 If you look at the second picture, you can see that we completely covered the face with a solid layer of gray. Now we need to redraw all of the line art in black on top of the gray, and to do that, we use the pen tool for the long, curving lines (especially if you don't have a tablet). If you look at the second picture, you can see that we completely covered the face with a solid layer of gray. Now we need to redraw all of the line art in black on top of the gray, and to do that, we use the pen tool for the long, curving lines (especially if you don’t have a tablet).

]]> By: Shino http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-21565 Shino Sun, 25 Sep 2011 14:13:08 +0000 http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/#comment-21565 um..can someone explain why the jaw line need to be redrawn? just to make it a perfect curve,is that it? um..can someone explain why the jaw line need to be redrawn? just to make it a perfect curve,is that it?

]]> By: Deslynn http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-19772 Deslynn Sat, 20 Aug 2011 22:06:56 +0000 http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/#comment-19772 I think I got it. =D I had to readjust for the fact that it strokes slightly to the right of the actual path, and the new mark over the old lines looked like it was thicker... I think. =/ But yeah, I've taken to dodging the lines now (took me a while to figure out that I needed to change the setting to "shadows" and adjust the hardness levels for it to have a discernable effect). Thank you! I'll definitely try the simulate pressure some time soon. =D I think I got it. =D I had to readjust for the fact that it strokes slightly to the right of the actual path, and the new mark over the old lines looked like it was thicker… I think. =/ But yeah, I’ve taken to dodging the lines now (took me a while to figure out that I needed to change the setting to “shadows” and adjust the hardness levels for it to have a discernable effect).

Thank you! I’ll definitely try the simulate pressure some time soon. =D

]]> By: chiresakura http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-19182 chiresakura Mon, 08 Aug 2011 01:52:31 +0000 http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/#comment-19182 I'm glad you're finding the tutorials helpful! Hmm... I'm not sure why a stroked pen line would double in width unless it was somehow stroking the inside and outside of the path (I'm not sure this is even possible...). Could you post a screenshot of what your PS window looks like plus one of the wide strokes? Sometimes what you can do if your lines look really artificial is set the opacity down to 85% or so. Your dodging method pretty much does that. Try the tapered lines with simulate pressure, too. That makes the edges look more natural. In the same menu where you choose settings for simulate pressure, you might be able to change things like jitter that can make the strokes less perfect. I’m glad you’re finding the tutorials helpful! Hmm… I’m not sure why a stroked pen line would double in width unless it was somehow stroking the inside and outside of the path (I’m not sure this is even possible…). Could you post a screenshot of what your PS window looks like plus one of the wide strokes?

Sometimes what you can do if your lines look really artificial is set the opacity down to 85% or so. Your dodging method pretty much does that. Try the tapered lines with simulate pressure, too. That makes the edges look more natural. In the same menu where you choose settings for simulate pressure, you might be able to change things like jitter that can make the strokes less perfect.

]]> By: Deslynn http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-18909 Deslynn Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:10:25 +0000 http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/#comment-18909 Hi! Adore your guides to an extent I can't where I can't even begin to describe. I've gotten the pen tool mostly down, so far, and I understand the concepts behind redrawing on gray for gray film. But each time I "stroke" with the pen tool, the line doubles (sometimes triples) in width size. I'm not sure how to fix it since the beginning line is only 1 pixel in width (and my brush is set at 1 pixel width). Another thing is that because the raw I've been fiddling with isn't exactly the highest quality out there (though not the worst either), the lines they have are more faded than the ones that are redrawn. Do we redraw the lines on a separate layer and then dodge them? (But for the most part, the thickness problem I mentioned above is the thing that makes the whole redraw look unnatural in the manga.) Sorry for long comment, thanks in advance and love your guides (just wanted to repeat ;P) Hi! Adore your guides to an extent I can’t where I can’t even begin to describe. I’ve gotten the pen tool mostly down, so far, and I understand the concepts behind redrawing on gray for gray film. But each time I “stroke” with the pen tool, the line doubles (sometimes triples) in width size. I’m not sure how to fix it since the beginning line is only 1 pixel in width (and my brush is set at 1 pixel width).

Another thing is that because the raw I’ve been fiddling with isn’t exactly the highest quality out there (though not the worst either), the lines they have are more faded than the ones that are redrawn. Do we redraw the lines on a separate layer and then dodge them? (But for the most part, the thickness problem I mentioned above is the thing that makes the whole redraw look unnatural in the manga.)

Sorry for long comment, thanks in advance and love your guides (just wanted to repeat ;P)

]]> By: Zartog http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-6271 Zartog Mon, 09 Aug 2010 02:22:11 +0000 http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/#comment-6271 ah okey, haha now i feel like a total newbie (Although i am one :D), thanks for answering my question and clearing that up. ah okey, haha now i feel like a total newbie (Although i am one :D), thanks for answering my question and clearing that up.

]]> By: chiresakura http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-6269 chiresakura Mon, 09 Aug 2010 00:35:32 +0000 http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/#comment-6269 You got it ;) The "gray layer" is the new layer where you'll cover the gray area of the raw. You can use a polygonal lasso and fill, the pen tool and fill, or any other method you want to make the gray areas. I recommend making a new gray layer for each section that you're redrawing ;) You got it ;)

The “gray layer” is the new layer where you’ll cover the gray area of the raw. You can use a polygonal lasso and fill, the pen tool and fill, or any other method you want to make the gray areas. I recommend making a new gray layer for each section that you’re redrawing ;)

]]> By: Zartog http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-6265 Zartog Mon, 09 Aug 2010 00:10:07 +0000 http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/#comment-6265 or wait is it just make a new layer then like mark up the part you're gonna gray and like right click fill and 50 % gray ? if it is so i feel a bit stupid :D or wait is it just make a new layer then like mark up the part you’re gonna gray and like right click fill and 50 % gray ? if it is so i feel a bit stupid :D

]]> By: Zartog http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-6264 Zartog Mon, 09 Aug 2010 00:01:12 +0000 http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/#comment-6264 Hey, great guides that you have here, only one thing tho i'm new to photoshop as well and i want to know how to create a layer of gray, i tried pressing f7 but nothing happened and i tried shift+crtl+N but that only opened a new layer. If you'd explained how to make a layer of gray that would have been excellent :) Thanks in advance. Hey, great guides that you have here, only one thing tho i’m new to photoshop as well and i want to know how to create a layer of gray, i tried pressing f7 but nothing happened and i tried shift+crtl+N but that only opened a new layer.
If you’d explained how to make a layer of gray that would have been excellent :) Thanks in advance.

]]> By: chiresakura http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-4373 chiresakura Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:22:55 +0000 http://senbonzakura.kageyoshi.net/2007/12/19/redrawing-with-the-pen-tool/#comment-4373 It all depends on which line I'm redrawing. For a 3000 px high Bleach raw, I'll stroke a normal line twice with a 2px brush. If it's a thicker line, I'll stroke with 3 px. Some of the finer lines and hatching will be 1.7 px with the line tool. I try to keep varying my lines with the raw, though, so the redraw doesn't wind up looking all the same ;) It all depends on which line I’m redrawing. For a 3000 px high Bleach raw, I’ll stroke a normal line twice with a 2px brush. If it’s a thicker line, I’ll stroke with 3 px. Some of the finer lines and hatching will be 1.7 px with the line tool. I try to keep varying my lines with the raw, though, so the redraw doesn’t wind up looking all the same ;)

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